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Still They Haunt Me: An Ongoing Photo Mystery

Yes.  These two.  Still.

Regular readers of this blog know of our long quest to identify some super-obscure film and TV (and “other”) stills that we found in a collection here at the Library of Congress.  (For those who would like a recap, please see the links at the bottom of this post.)

Our crowd-sourcing via this and other LC blogs has proved to be a spectacular success.  We started with well over 200 “unknowns” and, now, we have only 18 we don’t know!  Thank you all!

At this point in our long journey, it’s quite possible that these final 18 identities will never be solved; these people are just too obscure.  Along with blasting them all over the internet and Facebook and getting them in front of as many eyes as possible, we have also employed all the internet “reverse image search” programs out there and sent them all through some amazing (and slightly Orwellian) facial recognition software.  And, yet, with our last 18, we’ve still come up empty.

Nevertheless, having worked on this project for so long, these faces still tend to dance through my head.  It’s difficult, during bouts of insomnia, not to lay awake and wonder:  So who are they?  And, specifically, who are these two at the top of this page?

This photo has befuddled us for so long.  How much has it stymied us?  Well, we can’t even agree if, in a strictly binary sense, these are two men or two women or one of each!

It does seem to be a professional shot.  (The photographer and camera set up can be seen in the reflection of the glasses on one of the subjects.)  We assume that these two are some sort of New Wave duo.  But, unfortunately, they look like every New Wave duo of the New Wave era!

So far we do know that it is NOT any of the following:

Alannah Myles, Book of Love, David Johansen, Dogs d’Amore, Dweezil Zappa, Dwight Twilly Band, Edn-Ozn, Eve Moon, Face to Face, Faster Pussycat, Frances McDormand, Hangmen, Haysi Fantasi, Heart, Ian Hunter, Indigo Girls, Izzy Stradlin, Jacobites, Joan Jett, Karla Bonoff, Kings of the Sun, LA Guns, Love & Rockets, the Main Street Preachers, Marc Bolan, Michael Des Barres, Mickey Thomas, Motels, Paul Hardcastle, Peaches, Paul Westerberg, Randyandy, Richard Hell, Robert Hazard, Rough Trade, Scarlet Fantastic, Slits, Sparks, Strawberry Switchblade, Suicide, Suzi Quatro, The Cut, The Neon Judgement, The Throbs, Tik and Tok, Tom Keifer, T-Rex,the Waitresses, and, no, not Wendy and Lisa.  (All of the above have been approached, shown the picture and told us, “Not me.”)

Other guesses that have, so far, not been verified or denied are:  39 Clocks, Balaam and the Angel, Fashion, Lady Wreckless, and Thrill for Kills.

Surely the Library of Congress does not possess the ONLY copy of this photo in existence.  Surely it appeared somewhere else–on an album, CD or something?  Surely it got posted on a wall or printed in a newspaper.  Didn’t it?

But, granted, solving this this great mystery will not be easy.  Since their likeness does not pop up seemingly anywhere else on the internet (at least not that we’ve found so far), we are now pretty much looking for someone who might have seen them perform or someone who knows them personally or even the subjects themselves.

Solving this particular photo—in fact, our final 18—now is not so much a media mystery as a missing persons case.

 

The Trail and Trial of the Mystery Movie Photos

Hard-Won Victories:  Solving the Mystery of Some Mystery Photos

A Mystery No More!

 

 

 

98 Comments

  1. Guntztuffer
    November 17, 2021 at 9:53 am

    Is this Axe Frehley and Paul Stanley of KISS?

  2. K
    November 17, 2021 at 10:37 am

    Ten Years After?

  3. Megan
    November 17, 2021 at 11:05 am

    Sisters of Mercy?

  4. Brittany Richey
    November 17, 2021 at 11:06 am

    The Indigo Girls…?

  5. Aw
    November 17, 2021 at 11:26 am

    John Waite and Joan Jett (?)

  6. Ann
    November 17, 2021 at 11:27 am

    As a survivor of that era, they really don’t look New Wave to me. This style is more reminiscent of the rockers in that time period, imo.

  7. PeggyC
    November 17, 2021 at 11:37 am

    Not sure about the person on the right, but the one on the left looks like Linda Fiorentino.

  8. JJ
    November 17, 2021 at 11:55 am

    This is Andrew Eldritch and Patricia Morrison of ‘The Sisters of Mercy’.

  9. Paul Dayton
    November 17, 2021 at 12:09 pm

    Scarlett & Black?

  10. themacmeister
    November 17, 2021 at 12:14 pm

    Lou Reed + Rachel (Tommy) or Patti Smith?

    Don’t ask me why, it may be the gaunt cheeks and black eyeshadow, and those big manly hands… but I could swear the person on the left is Lou Reed early 70’s

    https://dangerousminds.net/comments/rachel_lou_reeds_transsexual_muse

  11. Julie
    November 17, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    I’m agreeing with Guntztuffer.

    One of them looks like Paul Stanley from KISS.
    The mouth area looks similar.
    Comparison.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulStanleyLive/photo

  12. QueenMama
    November 17, 2021 at 1:23 pm

    The person on the right looks a lot like a young Grace Slick.

  13. Seth
    November 17, 2021 at 2:09 pm

    Bob Dylan?

  14. Derrick Bell
    November 17, 2021 at 2:43 pm

    As a fan of music of that era…I said Sisters of Mercy right off. I see Rachel (talk about a mystery, the author of this blog, and LOC should try to solve the mystery of her. After all, she a transgender woman who was Lou Reed ‘gurl’ at his peak) I see her, not so much Lou. Other than some similar lips….sorry I dont see KISS or any member of otherwise.

  15. J Thompson
    November 17, 2021 at 3:59 pm

    Rozz Williams?

  16. Jarrod Thompson
    November 17, 2021 at 4:01 pm

    Rozz Williams?

  17. Paul Dayton
    November 17, 2021 at 4:54 pm

    Nena?

  18. Paul Dayton
    November 17, 2021 at 4:56 pm

    Boy meets Girl?

  19. Kevin Finney
    November 17, 2021 at 5:02 pm

    I don’t think it is Andrew Eldritch, though it is close… but Eldritch has a very strong, square and distinctive chin or jaw-line, and I don’t see that on this gentleman.

  20. Matt
    November 17, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    Sisters of Mercy or more likely, Rosetta Stone.

  21. Mark
    November 17, 2021 at 6:22 pm

    Any clues in the reflection of the photographer in the person on the right’s glasses? COMPUTER, ENHANCE!

  22. Jimmy P.
    November 17, 2021 at 8:44 pm

    Anthony Keidis and Hillel Slovak?

  23. CARY AT THE LC
    November 17, 2021 at 10:00 pm

    THANKS FOR ALL THE SUGGESTIONS. I WILL TRACK DOWN ALL THE LEADS AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT I FIND OUT.

  24. Patrick
    November 18, 2021 at 1:03 am

    The person on the right looks sort of like Sigourney Weaver.

  25. Red
    November 18, 2021 at 3:02 am

    The one on the right looks like Sigourney Weaver.

  26. EscapeGoat
    November 18, 2021 at 3:07 am

    Well, that’s Sigourney Weaver on the right.

  27. John lane
    November 18, 2021 at 3:33 am

    Sure looks like grace slick and jorma kaukonen to me. Post airplane most likely

  28. Jeff
    November 18, 2021 at 3:42 am

    On the right looks like Sigourney Weaver.

  29. The Parisian
    November 18, 2021 at 6:47 am

    I’d say NY Downtown scene circa 77-8. Maybe theater people or just scenesters. Not in a band IMHO. Mapplethorpe photo?

  30. Cary O’Dell
    November 18, 2021 at 8:06 am

    WE DID CHECK WITH SIGOURNEY WEAVER AND SHE SAID NEITHER PERSON IN THE PHOTO WAS HER.

  31. CARY AT THE LC
    November 18, 2021 at 10:36 am

    NOT MISSION UK.

  32. SE
    November 18, 2021 at 1:06 pm

    This actually looks a lot like Sue Saad, from Sue Saad and the Next, and possibly one of the members of the band.

  33. Debora Jarrell
    November 18, 2021 at 1:27 pm

    Debbie Harry?

  34. Darren
    November 18, 2021 at 2:41 pm

    Is it Valeria Golino and Peter Del Monte?

  35. None
    November 18, 2021 at 10:08 pm

    I don’t know but I’d ask the Whiskey/Troubadour/Roxy/Rainbow to compare with their old promotional materials because these two look like they’re from the 1980s Sunset strip

  36. maxdout
    November 19, 2021 at 12:50 am

    Thats an easy one, as other have said it’s Andrew Eldritch and Patricia Morrison “The Sisters of Mercy”

  37. Cary O’Dell
    November 19, 2021 at 6:34 pm

    THANKS TO ALL FOR THE SUGGESTIONS HERE AND ON REDDIT. I’M SLOWLY RUNNING THEM DOWN. THIS IS WHAT I KNOW SO FAR. IT IS NOT: Mission UK; Scarlett & Black; Nick Zedd; Ministry; Pat Metheny; Amanda Plummer, Sigourney Weaver; or Linda Fiorentino.

    I am waiting to hear back re: many of the others including: The Adverts, Rosetta Stone, The Cramps, Hanoi Rocks and The Modern Lovers, among others.

  38. claire tisserand
    November 20, 2021 at 3:14 pm

    Sigourney Weaver behind ?

  39. Lynn Jacobs
    November 20, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    Looks like Kate Jackson with some heavy makeup on the left.

  40. Molly
    November 20, 2021 at 4:09 pm

    Jorma and Grace from Jefferson Airplane

  41. Rachel
    November 20, 2021 at 4:21 pm

    Whomever mentioned Edn Ozn probably meant Ebn/Ozn, and my guess would be no. But Robert Ozn is on twitter so you could ask, @DadaNadaMusic.

  42. Valerie Armstrong
    November 20, 2021 at 4:24 pm

    Stiv Bator- Lords of the New Church

  43. Beth
    November 20, 2021 at 4:42 pm

    Cinderella

  44. Laura
    November 20, 2021 at 4:43 pm

    I don’t think either is Patricia Morrison because the eyebrows don’t look right. I wonder if one of them, probably the one on the right, could be Wayne Hussey.

  45. Jmac
    November 20, 2021 at 7:11 pm

    Debra Winger & Sigourney Weaver

  46. Rachel H
    November 20, 2021 at 7:37 pm

    The mouth, smile, and facial structure on the person on the left remind me of Jamie Lee Curtis. Not sure about the one on the right.

  47. KingCurt
    November 20, 2021 at 8:47 pm

    April Wine.

  48. David McCain
    November 20, 2021 at 9:06 pm

    The one on the left looks like Rosanne Cash about 1988.

  49. Brandon
    November 20, 2021 at 9:28 pm

    I absolutely believe that this is a photo of a very young Andrew Eldritch and Patricia Morrison from Sisters of Mercy

  50. Elizabeth
    November 20, 2021 at 9:32 pm

    100% NOT Hanoi Rocks. Not even close.

  51. Autumn
    November 20, 2021 at 9:59 pm

    It’s definitely not Ebn Ozn (misspelled in your article)

  52. Cubbie
    November 20, 2021 at 11:10 pm

    On the left, possibly Terry Bozzio former drummer of Missing Persons and the Mothers of Invention.

  53. NW
    November 21, 2021 at 1:34 am

    Another vote for Paul Stanley (left) but I think the one on the right is Gene Simmons – very early or even pre-Kiss

  54. Em
    November 21, 2021 at 2:11 am

    This is a photo by Henry Ditz of his fellow rock-photographer friend, Mick Rock, and legend (and mutual friend) Lou Reed. Legends!

  55. Allan
    November 21, 2021 at 10:14 am

    Well, I think it’s the Robinson brothers of Black Crowes fame.

  56. skidrowlife
    November 21, 2021 at 12:24 pm

    Any chance someone with awesome software can blow this photo up more and look at the photographer and other person through the sunglass lenses of the person on the right to get more info on who, what where it was taken? Even with my poor computer blow up, I can definitely make out some good features of those taking the photo…

  57. Alicia
    November 21, 2021 at 4:19 pm

    I wonder if they are actors dressed as rockers for a role in a movie or tv show?

  58. Beth Williams
    November 22, 2021 at 3:12 pm

    Michael Jackson on the left and Julian Lennon on the right

  59. Laurie Knopp
    November 22, 2021 at 10:40 pm

    On the left.. a young Adrienne Barbeau.

  60. Cary O’Dell
    November 23, 2021 at 10:57 am

    JUST HEARD BACK: NOT PATTI SMITH.

  61. Chris McKay
    November 23, 2021 at 6:36 pm

    Hmmmm…looks a bit like Shakespear’s Sister.

    Good luck!

  62. Bob Ellis
    November 23, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    My friend Chris McKay said it might be the group
    Shakespears Sister.

  63. Kathleen O’Neill
    November 24, 2021 at 12:28 pm

    Person in the back definitely looks like Mick Rock.https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=460167402131698&set=a.219133936235047

  64. Kathleen O’Neill
    November 24, 2021 at 12:34 pm

    I agree with post 54 that the person in the back looks like rock photographer Mick Rock
    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=460167402131698&set=a.219133936235047

    Unfortunately, he died this last week
    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2021/nov/22/mick-rock-obituary

    Other suggestions people asked me to pass on: the McGarrigle sisters or the Runaways.

  65. Dennis Kelly
    November 27, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    Chris DeGarmo & Michael Wilton of Queensryche?

  66. Leila
    November 28, 2021 at 11:15 am

    Craig Chaquico and Grace Slick from around the time they did the “Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now” video for the movie, Mannequin.

  67. Kahoot Guide
    November 30, 2021 at 8:04 am

    Michael Jackson on the left and Julian Lennon on the right

    Best Regard: https://www.kahootguide.com/

  68. Cary O’Dell
    December 4, 2021 at 10:08 pm

    JUST HEARD BACK: NOT SHAKESPEARS SISTER AND NOT LOU REED/MICK ROCK.

  69. Cary O’Dell
    December 5, 2021 at 11:47 am

    BTW, THOUGH I HAVE YET TO HEAR BACK FROM ANY OF THE BAND MEMBERS OF SISTERS OF MERCY (A VERY POPULAR GUESS FOR THIS PHOTO), A BIOGRAPHER OF THE BAND SAID THAT IT WAS NO INCARNATION OF THE GROUP. 🙁

  70. Tanya
    December 6, 2021 at 11:59 am

    In the early 80’s there was a synthpop duo called Slow Children that were signed to RCA for about a minute. This looks a lot like them.

  71. Cary O’Dell
    December 6, 2021 at 2:58 pm

    NOT SLOW CHILDREN EITHER, JUST HEARD BACK FROM PAL S.

  72. Cary O’Dell
    December 6, 2021 at 10:10 pm

    JUST HEARD BACK, NOT JAMIE LEE CURTIS EITHER.

  73. Sarah
    December 7, 2021 at 11:44 am

    Marc Bolan (L) and David Bowie (R) (this would be some kind of incognito dress up wig, but have you seen him with his mounds of curly hair?)

  74. Cary O’Dell
    December 13, 2021 at 10:29 pm

    NOT END-OZN. 🙁

  75. Susan Cragin
    December 30, 2021 at 1:20 pm

    A young Jamie Gertz and co-star in a publicity still for “The Lost Boys.”

  76. j
    January 2, 2022 at 2:36 pm

    Not Eldritch or Patricia Morrison, no.

    I know whoever you talked to said no Sisters, but the one really, really does look like Wayne Hussey. No chance he’s got a brother who was also in a band or something?

  77. Steven J. Slater
    January 4, 2022 at 9:43 am

    My vote is with Maxed Out and others for Sisters of Mercy. It’s a wonderful picture that could be interpreted as a joke. It matches up with the style in 1980s when androgyny was full-on. Either could be a man or a woman.

    Andrew Eldritch on right (more clearly, to me), and Patricia Morrison on left, the two founders of the band.

  78. CARY AT THE LC
    January 6, 2022 at 4:52 pm

    I wish I had better news…like a solution…but I don’t. I can, however, tell you that this photo is NOT any of the following:

    Kill for Thrills
    Leo Sayer
    Jennifer Grey
    Cichlids, The
    Gilby Clark
    Enrique Bunbury
    Martha Davis/The Motels
    Japan
    Edn Ozn
    Karla Bonoff
    The Adverts
    Slow Children
    Jamie Lee Curtis
    Lords of the New Church
    Gargoyle Sox
    Times Square (1980 film)
    Holly Knight
    Lisa Mordente
    Kaki Hunter
    Rosetta Stone

  79. Leila
    January 19, 2022 at 3:37 pm

    So you still haven’t heard from Grace Slick? The chin sure seems similar.
    https://musicoholics.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/07/JeffersonAirplane12_.jpg

  80. CARY AT THE LC
    January 21, 2022 at 1:09 pm

    More updates but no solutions. This is NOT a photo of any of the following:

    Sylvain Sylvain
    39 Clocks
    Grace Slick
    Modern Lovers (Jerry Harrison)
    McGarrigle Sisters

  81. Rowan
    February 16, 2022 at 4:08 pm

    The person on the right looks a LOT like Lea Thompson to me.

  82. Sio
    April 21, 2022 at 2:36 am

    Could it be the UK band “Under Neath What?” One-album wonder that supported the Nephilim around ’89 or ’90?

  83. Joe
    June 29, 2022 at 2:37 pm

    They could almost pass for Robert Smith and Simon Gallup (The Cure) – it’s almost assuredly a pair trying to crib The Cure’s aesthetic, but that look was getting common in that music scene.

  84. Tatiana
    June 29, 2022 at 4:25 pm

    Are you guys 100% certain that this isn’t the Canadian band Rough Trade? I see the band name on the rule-out list, but there’s been other bands named Rough Trade, and this really, REALLY looks like them. To ensure there’s no confusion, we’re talking about the Canadian band who had a minor hit in the 1980s in the USA with High School Confidential — Carole Pope and Kevan Staples.

  85. Cary O’Dell
    June 29, 2022 at 4:34 pm

    No, not Canada’s Rough Trade. Some years ago, after they were first guessed, I reached out to Carole Pope who was very nice and very certain that neither of these people were her.

  86. Natalie
    June 29, 2022 at 8:20 pm

    How about members from a band called Teeze?

  87. Dennui
    September 16, 2022 at 12:21 am

    Ann Magneson and Mark Kramer of Bongwater

  88. Carlenecat
    September 16, 2022 at 9:18 pm

    The woman on the right looks like Sigourney Weaver!

  89. Steve
    September 26, 2022 at 1:53 pm

    Try Kyle and Myles Mendes, the twins that makes up the band NITE from Dallas, TX. Web site is https://wearethenite.com/

  90. SC
    September 26, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    Anne and Nancy Wilson of Heart?

  91. Eric
    September 26, 2022 at 3:56 pm

    looking at the hand and the faces, I would guess both are men in their 20’s, their lipstick and hair gives them a somewhat feminine appearance.

  92. JPG
    September 27, 2022 at 2:10 am

    Lea Thompson and Mary Stuart Masterson? Possibly an aborted publicity still for Some Kind of Wonderful?

  93. Steven Torelli
    September 27, 2022 at 7:22 am

    No idea about the one in the rear, but they’re both guys and my guess as to the one in the front would be a young Ozzie Osbourne.

  94. Ringo
    September 27, 2022 at 11:49 am

    The person on the right looks like Sigourney Weaver.

  95. Bjarte
    September 29, 2022 at 3:57 am

    Sean Young on the left?

  96. Bjarte
    September 29, 2022 at 4:20 am

    I thought it could be Janis Ian on the right, but lips not correct.

  97. Bjarte
    September 30, 2022 at 5:23 am

    Wait, it couldn’t actually be Radka Toneff on the left?

  98. Bjarte
    September 30, 2022 at 8:39 am

    The woman on the left could also very well be Mapplethorpe model Lisa Lyon.

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